TFWPKY 1969 Review

…and if it doesn’t, the bullets surely will.

TFWPKY 1969 is a Legendary primary hand cannon.

This weapon is purchasable from the Crucible Quartermaster, and can also be rewarded randomly.


The good: Balanced, large magazine.

The bad: Slow reload speed, low stability, Mulligan.

Conclusion: Perks aren’t that beneficial in PvP.

Read the full review here

This is a Legendary Weapon
Hand Cannon (Primary Weapon)
Kinetic Base Damage/Upgraded272/331
Quality Lvl60
Rate of Fire
Magazine Size

Aim Assist
Equip Speed
Recoil Direction

Talent Upgrades Tree (from the vendor)

Kinetic Damage

This weapon causes Kinetic damage.


Stable sight. Optimized for excellent recoil control.

+6 Stability
+8 Reload

Return to Sender

Kills with this weapon grant a 40% change of bonus ammo, directly to the magazine.

Upgrade Damage 1

Increases Attack Power, resulting in more Damage.

Armor Piercing Rounds

These iridium-core rounds overpenetrate targets. Their mass slows down weapon handling.

+40 Range
-10 Reload


Missing a shot has a 5% chance to return ammo directly to the magazine.

Upgrade Damage 2

Increases Attack Power, resulting in more Damage.

Upgrade Damage 3

Increases Attack Power, resulting in more Damage.


Snapshot sight. Excellent handling. Superb target acquisition.

+2 Stability
+12 Reload

Flared Magwell

Reload this weapon even faster.

Upgrade Damage 4

Increases Attack Power, resulting in more Damage.


Agile sight. Lightning-fast handling.

+15 Reload
+15 Handling

Field Scout

Maximum Ammo capacity.

Increases magazine size from 10 to 13.

Upgrade Damage 5

Increases Attack Power, resulting in more Damage.

Video Review

Weapon Review

TFWPKY 1969 is a Legendary primary hand cannon which can be purchased from the Crucible Quartermaster for 150 Crucible Marks. Its name stands for “The Fall Will Probably Kill You,” a reference to a line from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

The default perks are listed above, but these can vary if you receive this weapon from an Engram or random reward in PvE/PvP. Click here to see all of its potential perks.

Recommended Perks

+6 Stability
+8 Reload
+8 Handling

Field Scout
Increases magazine size to 13

The Good

A solid all-around weapon, TFWPKY 1969 is an easily obtainable legendary hand cannon that compliments most builds and styles of play.

At a respectable 81 Impact and an average rate of fire, it’s bound to catch enemies off guard with its low time to kill. A solid magazine size of 10 is boosted to 13 with Field Scout.

TFWPKY 1969 boasts a great balance of stats that allow the weapon to perform dutifully in most encounters. It doesn’t excel at anything, but it’s certainly isn’t bad in any particular way either. Its base stats are just the middle-ground compared to other hand cannons; nothing awesome but nothing bad.

Flared Magwell or Field Scout keep time spent reloading to a minimum, offsetting the downtime associated with hand cannons in PvE. The base reload speed is 3 seconds, but Flared Magwell will reduce it to 2 seconds.

We recommend Field Scout since having that 3 additional rounds give you a better chance at activating Return to Sender or Mulligan.

In PvP, TFWPKY 1969‘s stats alone make it more than serviceable. Its large magazine and low recoil make it easier to land shots under pressure and less punishing when shots whiff. As with most hand cannons, TFWPKY 1969 is strongest in mid range, but can still perform well in close range scenarios provided you’re comfortable with it.

With accurate hip fire you’ll be able to outplay close range weapons with a quick shoot and melee combo, and even if you miss, the Mulligan perk has a 5% chance to return your ammo.

The Bad

TFWPKY 1969 comes stock with incredibly undesirable perks, especially in PvP where primary ammo isn’t an issue at all. Its stock perks are really only noticeable in PvE.

Return to Sender and Mulligan help to slightly alleviate issues with the hand cannon’s low ammo reserve, but not often enough.

Return to Sender is rarely beneficial when after most kills you’ll be looking for the next opportunity to reload anyway. With a low process rate, Mulligan is even weaker and more situational, and really isn’t good for any weapon.

Other than Field Scout, nothing on this weapon will work in your favor against other Guardians in the Crucible.

The base reload speed is 3 seconds, but Flared Magwell will reduce it to 2 seconds. This isn’t the slowest reload speed, but it’s definitely well below average.

The base stability is also below average, just slightly higher than Fatebringer.

TFWPKY 1969 Review


This hand cannon looks the part, sharing the fatter frame of some newer models. For better or worse, it has the ubiquitous red and blue paint job shared by all Crucible weapons.

It’s not winning any awards for beauty or originality, but it’s still no slouch. It has an exterior that matches its performance: You can judge this book by its cover.


Don’t expect to be surprised and you won’t be disappointed. TFWPKY 1969 is a workhorse, but would benefit from perks like Zen Moment, Perfect Balance, and Luck in the Chamber.

If your Exotic weapon slot is full and you’re in the market for a new primary, this is an excellent choice for PvE. While TFWPKY 1969 could really benefit from random rolls, it’s still a good choice for PvP because of its high magazine size.

To compare TFWPKY 1969 to Timur’s Lash, which you can read our review for as well, TFWPKY has lower Impact & range, and almost ties at reload speed.

Still, its arguably the best of the purchasable hand cannons on base stats alone, and certainly a better choice than the Vanguard alternative, The Devil You Don’t. This is a fun weapon for hand cannon fanatics, and a well-rounded introduction for hand cannon initiates.

If you’re looking for the best Legendary hand cannons, you’ll want to focus your attention on the Fatebringer, Word of Crota, or Timur’s Lash (reroll it!).

For PvP this weapon earns a 7.4/10 and for PvE a 7.5/10.


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  • Christian

    Nicely written. I’m glad someone is getting reviews on Vendor Items out there (: I never purchase them myself!

  • Christian Jimenez

    I purchased this handcannon just last night and I can see it being very useful for hive encounters. With return to sender and armor piercing round I imagine that it can take down an entire group of thralls without reloading. And with a hunters chain of woe the reload speed won’t be much of a problem when it is finally time to reload

  • wayne thomas

    i have this weapon with clown cartridge which regularly gives a 12 round mag over the standard 10, explosive rounds and feeding frenzy which reloads really fast after a kill, i use it most of the time as all my characters have hand cannon ammo increase perks brilliant in PvE against most enemies except bosses where patience n time comes out to play, i dont play crucible so cant say how good it performs there

  • ConfuciusSayyy

    If you have the marks, don’t buy this. Instead, buy the FWC HC (The Chance). It was updated with Field Scout, and it also has Spray and Play and Grenadier which are must better than TFWPKY’s perks.

  • Dresden

    TFWPKY = This Fucker Will Promptly Kill You?

    • eVOLve865

      The Fall Will Probably Kill You

  • Murat Ozcan

    It does not even come close to last season’s hand cannons; the pvp Lord High Fixer or the pve The Devil you know. In fact The Devil you know is still better in pvp than this. Lackluster. No one should bother with this when they can reroll Timur’s Lash, after this week everyone should have one.

  • Tenabrus

    have to decide between FWC handcanon or Dead Orbit machime gun, which would serve me better? I’m trying to get high impact slow MG’s with each kind of special damage and I just bought the Badger scout rifle…

    • Thiago123

      Against All Odds is an excellent High Impact / Low ROF MG. You can buy it from the Crucible vendor with Solar damage (I think), but I got lucky and got mine from a drop with void damage, but more importantly, with Field Scout which makes it a complete monster when you have 50 round clips and can carry two more clips. I don’t know if the vendor version has Field Scout, but if it does, it’s well worth the marks.
      Whether that’s better than the FWC Hand Cannon, couldn’t say…apples and oranges.
      My fully upgraded Badger is my main primary, I love it. I think the game knows it since I’ve had 3 others drop for me…

      • Tenabrus

        yeah, I think I made a mistake I meant to say TFWPKY and not the FWC handcanon, no idea how I mixed up the two.

  • Paul Zuffer

    I got this with field scout, kills reduce granade cooldown and a headshot reduces the reload speed
    I love that weapon

  • Geoffrey Sims

    This thing is a turd. I have an “Upgraded” Red Hand, and it definitely has some of the better perks than this turd.

  • Josh Gotlieb

    The Chance from FWC is the best 331 vendor hand cannon. With good stats and an excellent perk set that includes field scout it has performed well when I don’t want to use my exotic slot for Thorn.

  • BarryTheEpicFail

    I got this through random engram with perks of Spray and Play, Explosive Rounds and Mulligan….it’s wrecking the place………..

  • …and if it doesn’t, the bullets surely will. ( I like this ).

  • I had a good experience in PVP using this weapon. In my opinion, much better than Timur’s Lash. Timur’s has the highest impact, but its low stability makes it very hard to head shot.

  • illusionist5151

    I got the version that has hip fire, perfect balance, flared magwell, field scout and grenadier.

  • Kelley

    Got this from a decoherent engram while i was patrolling venus. This was my first legendary primary, and as a level 31, i still use it today. Great weapon for PvE, not so much for crucible.

  • Omni TTron

    love my one with these perks

  • QuadGMoto

    I received one of these as a drop. Since it’s my first (and only) legendary hand cannon, I took it out to play on patrol and quickly grew attached to it.

    Its perks (that I’m using) are QuickDraw IS, Hipfire (wish it was Rangefinder), Armor Piercing, and Feeding Frenzy. It’s those last two perks that really makes this thing rock. When I have enemies lined up (especially thrall) I can clear a crowd in a big hurry, then trigger an express reload and clear the next crowd.

    I’m especially impressed at its ability (even at only 283 attack) to one-shot enemies that take two shots with my favorite fully leveled scout (Another NITC with Rodeo, Send It, and Mulligan).