Why Raid’s Aren’t for Everyone

Destiny’s raids aren’t for everyone, and VG247 has an article that accurately outlines the reasons why, and expands on the intentional decisions by Bungie to make them less accessible. 

By limiting raids to the super hardcore, Bungie’s not limiting its audience. It’s just one manifestation of how it’s opening the audience for gaming up.

Despite their incredible reach, online multiplayer shooters are inaccessible to new audiences, because of the dauntingly steep learning curves. If you’re already a veteran shooter you probably don’t care. But game developers do. They want their audiences to grow much faster than barriers to entry allow. They want to make games that everyone can enjoy.

When the industry experiments with accessibility it rarely succeeds. Think of difficulty and skill requirements as a graph, with peaks and troughs. Because there are a bunch of people in the troughs, where you start off, and so very few in the peaks, where not everybody makes it the easiest way to level things up and open the game to more people is to lop off the peaks and mine down to the level of the lowest common denominator.

Do that, and suddenly the skilled aren’t being challenged, and everyone’s just sloughing about at the bottom, unable to aspire to anything better. Playing games that don’t challenge you (whether it be tactically, intellectually, physically or emotionally; some games are easy to play but engage your brain in different ways) at all isn’t fun, long-term.

No matter how often developers and PR managers talk about “scaling difficulty” and “lowering the barriers to entry” we all know what happens when a game has its fangs drawn. The fun goes out of it for the hardcore, and it’s the hardcore who build long-lasting communities and keep games alive. You don’t get new hardcore gamers if they have no peaks to climb, either.

This is one of the hard problems of modern game design, and Bungie’s trying something really different to try and solve it. Instead of lopping off those peaks, it’s leaving them in place -and providing several other kinds of peaks, too, so everyone has a chance to be a mountain climber.

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Something for everyone

Destiny isn’t like other shooters, with a solo campaign and a multiplayer suite existing as separate entities. It’s a really different beast – a shooter where you can spend all day in traditional PvP; go on a solo campaign; co-op the campaign; explore a sandbox world with endless quests; go on missions designed exclusively for co-op; and even go on raids, a hardcore co-op mode.

You can see the seeds of this in Bungie’s past, where it introduced co-op missions to Halo. Already it was thinking about new ways for players to get together and engage beyond pwning noobs. With Destiny, it’s making an attempt to once more revolutionize multiplayer shooters, by proving that a game can offer several different kinds of experiences, and still have each one be a quality experience.

The great thing about Destiny is if PvP frustrates you, ignoring it completely will do you no harm. On the flip side, there’s no need to do more than a few token campaign missions if you’d rather just play multiplayer. The same applies to the strikes, raids, explore and whatever other activities may come; too often destiny is characterized as only offering two kinds of gameplay.

Bungie has incentivised moving between modes by offering rare gear in each of them. Completionists will want to do everything. More casual players might just be envious of a particular bit of gear and want to chase it up. There’s no penalty if you choose not to, but plenty of reasons to do so.

In a perfect world, everyone will do everything, lured in by these incentives. This is not a perfect world. I promise you, I’m never going to be good enough or competitive enough to enjoy PvP. It’s just not going to happen. It’s not for me.

In the same way, if you don’t have five friends willing to spend an entire weekend in co-op with you, raids are not for you.

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“The raid is the most challenging thing we have ever created. It is not going to be for everyone. We freely admit that,” Bungie community manager David “Deej” Dague told GameReactor.

Bungie doesn’t care if you don’t play raids because you can’t summon a multiplayer crew. It has conceded that not everybody will. It has designed raids as not being for everyone – just as it has designed an online game, accepting that people without reliable Internet connections can’t join the fun.

Raids are for me. I can find five hardcore gamer friends willing to spend an afternoon – or several afternoons – in an elaborate co-op mission.

“But I can’t, Brenna, and I want to play raids!” you say. Yes, well. I want to be the world’s top-ranked Call of Duty player, and I can’t. We all have our different crosses to bear. Destiny offers different types of gameplay to different people; it doesn’t erect barriers saying only one kind of gamer can participate. What it does it much bolder, saying: here’s a package, and you help yourself to what suits you. We haven’t made anything easy for anyone.

Bungie has a lot of experience with multiplayer communities, and it acknowledges that there are gamers who -repeatedly! – won’t stay to see the end of even a 12 minute PvP match. Imagine if Destiny made a piss-easy PvP mode where veterans were penalized and beginners wandered about one-shotting people with O/P weapons. Would that please you?

No. I thought not. And you know what would not please me? Raids that were easy enough you could play them with random strangers who dropped out whenever they felt like it. Raids that take an hour, or half an hour, or ten minutes to finish, to cater to the fact that strangers’ schedules don’t always line up.

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Six is a crowd

Of course it’s difficult to get six players together, but speaking to Eurogamer, Bungie’s Jonty Barnes said the team settled on six – quite a large number – because it’s two fireteams of three, and three was a sweet spot it found early on.

“When you think about raids, it’s very much about playing different roles to try to get through. It’s very difficult,” he said.

“But if you think about it in terms of two fireteams that are coordinating, the idea of six people coordinating with their different aspects, and the way they’re designed – which you’ll see later that I won’t talk about – all those things combined made six right.”

Barnes said Bungie is already seeing people organize, and I’ve seen evidence of that on social networks; I myself have started a Facebook group to help get my friends together to raid.

“It’s about the group dynamic. It’s not just about a casual dynamic. It’s about an understanding of people committed to playing the roles in raids,” Barnes said.

“And preparing. With raids, you don’t just jump into them. You’ve got to prepare before you go in, and decide, what are you doing? What am I doing? Let’s all talk about it in orbit. Okay, what role are you going to play? Well, I’m an x Titan, whatever type of Titan I am, and I’m going to be defensive and hold positions. And, have you played this before? Yeah, I found success when I did it this way.”

“You will need teammates who are willing to communicate with you. You will need to solve problems together. You will need to work together to unravel the riddles of how you overcome these enormous obstacles,” Deej added.

“It’s a commitment that you make, to accept the challenge. You make that commitment to tackle that obstacle with five other people who will see it through with you, to the end.”

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  • chris

    I myself am glad they decided to lean more towards a hardcore organized gaming community. I understand that there are people out there that might not be able to play the raids. Bungie is basically saying to the community that it doesn’t want to settle for people that pop the disc in and play just because they are bored but they made it for people that actually want to have fun with friends while still being challenged so that not just one person can solo the entire raid no matter how good they are.

  • snake918_PL

    What happens if let’s say we start the raid with six player team and then one player leave the team?. Can we continue game with five of us or the game must be quit?

    • DrowningFish

      if you read the full interview it sounded as though you could continue BUT they said without 6 people you won’t be able to finish because it will be to hard and you need 6 people who know their role to be able to succeed.

    • Niels-Peter Lund

      Somewhere I saw/heard/read that there will be a checkpoint system, (check pointed for a limited time)

  • Niels-Peter Lund

    All this really makes sense! Good good read 🙂 still ‘sad’ about that it will be so ‘hardcore/time comsuming) that i will not be able to play it… But cool way to make ‘really hardcore gamers’ to play harder and keep the game alive… BUT in the article he wrote that theres no harm in skipping PVP but what about iron banner gear? I will miss out on that… But the good PVP player can always get the story/roam stuff… Hope they will make some exclusive stuff a PVP heavy player usually won’t get…

    • chris

      Doubtful being that games such as WoW require players to start off in PVE and then use that gear to start earning PVP stuff so my guess is that they will focus people playing more on PVP but will lure those “hardcore PVP players” over to PVE for cool gear like nightfall strikes and such

  • Niels-Peter Lund

    Dual wielding FTW! 🙂

  • sycoteck

    So now my question is do you have to have a full six players to start the raid. Because I for sure have me and 3 friends that are getting destiny & want to conquer the raids but will we need to fill the other to spots or can I roll with 2 fire teams of 2.

    P.s. I don’t care if it makes it harder I just want to be able to try

    • chris

      Deej said something along the lines of “you WILL NOT be able to beat the raids with less than 6 people it WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE” hinting at puzzle elements and such or just super high difficulty

    • As far as I know, you’ll need 6, no less.