Does Toughness Matter in PvP?

Published on: Jul 20, 2015 @ 06:52

The effect of Armor (toughness) in PvP is a tricky subject and isn’t very easy to test. Is it worth having a maximum Armor rating, sacrificing Recovery and/or Agility?

This guide will hopefully answer that question while also shedding some light on how Armor works and what your focus should be on.

What is Armor? What is Health?

Note: Armor in this guide refers to toughness; the class stat.

While this may seem obvious to some, it’s important to understand exactly what affects armor and how it helps us. As Reddit user CaptainChaozZz noted in this analysis, Armor does not affect health, but does affect the shield.

It appears that every Guardian has roughly 105 health points; the shield points will vary though. In other words, it doesn’t matter if you have maximum armor or not, the amount of health you have will stay the same, but the amount of shots you can take before your shield breaks will vary based on Armor rating.

Warlocks can increase their armor with their skill tree up to +7, Hunters up to +8, and Titans are the only ones who can get +9. Armor will increase the amount of hits your shield can take.

Armor Shield
+0 80
+1 81
+2 82
+3 84
+4 86
+5 88
+6 89
+7 92
+8 93
+9 95

A difference of 15 shield points between lowest and highest Armor rating is almost insignificant in most circumstances, but there’s a few instances that it can save your life, especially if coupled with The Ram helmet.

Armor Benefits

The following is a list of some of the most important things you can survive by having a specific amount of armor:

At least +3 armor:

  • Hawkmoon (Aggressive Ballistics): 2 Headshots
  • Low-mid RoF Machine Guns (like Deviant Gravity-A, Aggressive Ballistics): 2 Headshots and 1 Bodyshot

At least +4 armor:

  • Vex Mythoclast (Smart Drift Control): 4 Headshots and 1 Bodyshot
  • Vex Mythoclast (Smart Drift Control): 2 Headshots and 4 Bodyshots
  • Low RoF Pulse Rifles (like The Messenger): 5 Headshots
  • Low RoF Hand Cannons (like Timur’s Lash): 2 Headshots
  • 1 Golden Gun shot during Fist of Havoc

At least +5 armor:

  • Suros Regime (Accurized Ballistics): 7 Headshots
  • Red Death (Aggressive Ballistics): 4 Headshots and 2 Bodyshots
  • Low-mid RoF Machine Guns (like Deviant Gravity-A, Linear Compensator): 3 Headshots
  • Throwing Knife (Incendiary Blade): 1 Headshot
  • 1 Golden Gun shot during Radiance with Radiant Skin

At least +6 armor:

  • Gunslinger Tripmine Grenade
  • 2 Sunsinger Firebolt Grenades (without Viking Funeral)
  • Axion Bolt Grenade + 1 The Last Word Headshot (Aggressive Ballistics)

At least +7 armor:

  • Vex Mythoclast (Aggressive Ballistics): 3 Headshots and 2 Bodyshots
  • The Last Word (Smart Drift Control): 2 Headshots and 1 Bodyshot
  • The Last Word (Aggressive Ballistics): 1 Headshot and 2 Bodyshots
  • Low RoF Scout Rifles (like The Scholar): 2 Headshots and 1 Bodyshot
  • The Scholar (with Reactive Reload): 2 Headshots
  • Base Melee + 1 The Last Word Bodyshot (Aggressive Ballistics + Hip Fire)
  • Firebolt Grenade (without Viking Funeral) + 1 Thorn Headshot (Aggressive Ballistics)

At least +8 armor:

  • Low-mid RoF Pulse Rifles (like 55A-Allfate): 6 Headshots
  • Low RoF Machine Guns (like Jolder’s Hammer): 1 Headshot and 2 Bodyshots

+9 armor:

  • Mid RoF Hand Cannons (like Fatebringer): 1 Headshot and 2 Bodyshots
  • (Everything mentioned above)

The Ram

This new exotic Warlock helmet not only triggers Life Steal on all your Voidwalker melees, it also increases Armor, making it useful even for a Sunsinger.

the ram armor guide

According to CaptainChaozZz, The Ram‘s effectiveness increases with your base armor:

Armor Shield Shield with the Ram Increase
+0 80 88 10 %
+1 81 89 9.87 %
+2 82 92 12.19 %
+3 84 94 11.90 %
+4 86 96 11.62 %
+5 88 98 11.36 %
+6 89 105 17.97 %
+7 92 114 23.91 %

A Warlock with +7 armor wearing The Ram can survive the following:

  • Thorn (Aggressive Ballistics): 2 Headshots
  • Thorn (Aggressive Ballistics): 3 Bodyshots
  • Red Death (Aggressive Ballistics): 6 Headshots
  • Mid to high-RoF or high-RoF Sniper Rifle (like Praedyth’s Revenge): 2 Bodyshots
  • Low to mid-RoF Sniper Rifle (like LDR-5001): 1 Headshots after revive
  • Titan Shoulder Charge
  • Bladedancer Flux Grenade

Sunsingers will also benefit from this helmet, because they are able to survive a headshot from an LDR-5001 or a Golden Gun shot during Radiance without having to use Radiant Skin, while wearing The Ram.

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2.0 Changes

With the weapon balance changes to most weapon classes and some Exotics, how will this change the importance of Armor?

Bungie stated that Pulse Rifles with a medium RoF will either require 2 or 3 bursts-to-kill, depending on an opponent’s Armor stat. While Guardians with +8 armor can already survive two headshot bursts from Pulse Rifles like the 55A-Allfate, guardians with +5 armor will most likely be able to survive two bursts to the head after the update.

Bungie also stated that Thorn’s DoT will be reduced to 1/3 of its current damage, but will also be stackable. If we assume that the reduction will be exactly 1/3 of Thorn’s DoT damage (14 damage), then 2 critical shots will not kill a player with +7 armor. However, it is more likely that they will reduce Thorn’s DoT to 12 damage, because then it could deal 3 damage over 4 seconds. This would imply that a player with +5 armor would not die from 2 Thorn headshots.

Max Armor – Worth It?

This choice obviously depends on you and the amount of Agility and Recovery you are willing to sacrifice. Opting for high/maximum toughness only gives a slight boost to your survivability, but Agility and Recovery however can do that as well. The question remains: Which is most useful?

The most obvious reason to go for high Armor is the Gunslinger’s Tripmine. Having at least +6 armor will let you survive them from full health, which is very useful, because of the Tripmine’s popularity. If you don’t have access to The Ram, maximum Armor might not seem as such an important quality since the benefits aren’t as great.

health armor shield guide

If you’re a Titan, since Armor is already naturally high, we recommend not increasing it further. For the other classes, being flexible is usually the best option. Adapt to your opponents by inspecting them, especially in Trials of Osiris or other 3v3 gametypes, and see how beneficial it is to have a higher Armor rating.

As always, be sure to share your thoughts about low/high armor in the comments, and let us know what you prefer!

Lennart D
I write in-depth guides about everything Destiny has to offer. Analyzing stats and game-mechanics is a great pleasure of mine and I like trying out different playstyles in-game.

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