Bad Juju Exotic Review v.2

“If you believe your weapon wants to end all existence, then so it will.” – Toland the Shattered

Bad Juju is an Exotic primary pulse rifle.

This weapon can only be acquired via its Exotic bounty.

8.9/10
8.8/10

The good: Nearly infinite ammo, 2x Super recharge.

The bad: Kinetic damage, low Impact.

Conclusion: Very fun, very powerful.

Read the full review here

This is an Exotic Weapon
Pulse Rifle (Primary Weapon)
Kinetic Base Damage/Upgraded302/331
Quality Lvl70
Rate of Fire
73
Impact
7
Range
33
Stability
55
Reload
65
Magazine Size
24

Aim Assist
60
Equip Speed
50
Recoil Direction
85
Zoom
17

Talent Upgrades Tree

Kinetic Damage

This weapon causes Kinetic damage.

Smooth Ballistics

Less Recoil. Penalty to Range.

+10 stability
-5 range.

Hip Fire

This weapon has bonus accuracy while firing from the hip.

Cuts your “bloom” circle by 33%.

Upgrade Damage 1

Increases Attack Power, resulting in more Damage.

Armor Piercing Rounds

These iridium-core rounds overpenetrate targets. Their mass slows down weapon handling.

Causes rounds to penetrate targets.

String of Curses

This weapon reloads instantly and increases damage for a short time after each kill.

Upgrade Damage 2

Increases Attack Power, resulting in more Damage.

Upgrade Damage 3

Increases Attack Power, resulting in more Damage.

Full Auto

This weapon can be fired in full auto mode.

Soft Ballistics

Less Recoil. Penalty to Impact.

-5% Damage
+10 Stability.

Send It

Increases range and accuracy.

+50 Range

Upgrade Damage 4

Increases Attack Power, resulting in more Damage.

Smart Drift Control

Predictable and controllable recoil. Penalty to range.

+20 Stability
-15 Range

Perfect Balance

This weapon has extremely low recoil.

+35 Stability
-20 Range

Upgrade Damage 5

Increases Attack Power, resulting in more Damage.

Requires an Exotic Shard

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Toland’s Legacy Guide

Description: Guardians on vital strike missions have found signs of Toland the Shattered, a once esteemed Warlock whose obsessions led to his exile. The Vanguard would like you to investigate his trail.

Steps to Complete:

  1. Complete a heroic or Nightfall Strike to obtain Toland’s Journal [Fragmented].
  2. Bring the journal to Ikora Rey to obtain Toland’s Journal [Fragmented].
  3. Complete 25 Strikes to obtain Toland’s Journal [Encrypted]. Nightfall Strikes counts as 3.
  4. Bring the journal to Ikora Rey to obtain Toland’s Journal [Decrypted].
  5. Bring the journal to the Gunsmith to obtain Black Market Coupon.
  6. Bring the coupon to Xûr to obtain Darkness-infused weapon frame.
  7. Bring the weapon frame to the Gunsmith to obtain Darkness-infused Pulse Rifle.
  8. Defeat Guardians in the Crucible to obtain Sated Pulse Rifle.
  9. Return the weapon to the Gunsmith to obtain Bad Juju.

Weapon Review

Bad Juju is a primary pulse rifle rifle that can be obtained through its Exotic bounty, which is outlined above.

Before the Exotic patch, Bad Juju was a mess and barely used because it just wasn’t useful enough. It’s now one of the best PvE primary weapons in the game.

Recommended perks:

Smart Drift Control
+20 Stability
-15 Range

Perfect Balance
+35 Stability
-20 Range

Recent Buffs

  • Magazine Size increased to 8 bursts (was 5)
  • Stability Increased
  • Ammo inventory size increased
  • String of Curses now also decreases the cooldown of your Super on kill
  • Adjusted effects to not block first person reticle

The Good

Bad Juju is really built around the String of Curses perk, ans the update added the ability to increase your Super energy on kills to it. Now in addition to automatically reloading the weapon on a kill, and increasing damage on a kill, it will now bring your super energy up a bit quicker.

Your Super meter will fill up twice as fast, and even faster if you’re benefiting from the Inverse Shadow armor perk and/or high intellect. It will take about 15 kills to fill up your meter.

String of Curses really starts to shine in swarm encounters like the first area in the Crota’s End raid. Since you almost never need to reload, you’ll save a lot of time and be all the more deadly because of it.

When the weapon reloads it doesn’t take ammo from your reserve, which means you are never going to run out of ammo as long as you keep landing the killing blow on targets.
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The magazine size was also upgraded in the patch, increasing it to 24 rounds. This is a great reprieve from the 15 round magazine size that it used to have. With the high rate of fire, you can actually miss a burst or two and not feel punished for it.

This weapon also fires in full auto. The high fire rate, plus full auto allows for some very quick damage on enemies, especially if you are able to land all those as precision shots.

For Warlocks, Bad Juju is a necessary addition to their arsenal. With the Obsidian Mind helm, plus the Energy Drain, Soul Rip, and Embrace the Void talents, you’re going to be able to use grenades and Nova Bomb a lot more than normal.

The Bad

The 1 thing that really keeps this weapon from ascending into the top tier of exotics is its low impact rating. This really becomes an issue when facing anything above a tier one enemy.

You take too many shots to bring them down, even if you are only landing headshots. Pulse rifles aren’t very strong in PvP as it is, and the low impact really hurts it.

In PvE it’s going to take about 6-8 bursts to take down an enemy, less with the damage buff active.

Iv PvP, shots to the body are 16 and headshots are 24, which means you’ll need to work for every kill. You have to perfectly line up your recoil, and if you have the skill to do that, you should go with a scout rifle or hand cannon.

String of Curses requires you get the killing blow, and that’s sometimes more difficult in PvP. Furthermore, if you’re playing in a group in PvE, then it also becomes slightly more difficult to ensure you land killing blows.

The perks don’t really allow for a lot of customization either. To make the most of the weapon you want to kill things as quick as possible, which means you want your shots to all land on precision points. Going with higher stability is the best way to go about this, though “Send It” is worth trying out too if you think you need the Range.


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Cosmetics

Bad Juju‘s cosmetics received a tweak to the particle effect on the front of the gun so it no longer interferes with the normal handling of the weapon.

The other cosmetics are unchanged. The sights are still crisp and bright, and the sound is interesting.

Its overall look and feel looks great, on your back or in the Tower; it truly looks Exotic.

Conclusion

Despite the low impact and lack of upgrade options, Bad Juju is a weapon that is not only really fun to use, but extremely powerful in the right situations.

A high intellect build in PvE can yield very fun results, especially a Void Walker with the Obsidian Mind.

If there are a lot of tier 2 enemies then it would be best to just switch to a weapon with higher impact.

If you find yourself with this Exotic bounty, it’s worth completing.

For PvP this weapon earns a 8.9/10 and for PvE a 8.8/10.

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Patrick Casey

Howdy! I am a contributing writer. If you think I overlooked something about a weapon, feel free to comment below and let me know. I’ll see you in the Crucible.

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  • sbrozzi

    Ever since the buff Bad JuJu has worked its way to be one of my favourite weapons, and I am still using the pre-DLC version. The Bounty was a real pain (as was Thorn’s) but I believe now it was well worth it. If only the impact was higher… But in fairness if it was, this gun would almost be unstoppable.

    Love your site guys, keep the reviews coming.

  • Southbendw1

    I am one of the lucky few with this and the Obsidian helm. I like how it turns voidbros into a decent support class, what with the obserd amout of orbs I constantly poop everywhere.

    • BAMozzy69 .

      I have Obsidian Mind too and love the fact I have Super after Super after Super… Its by far the best Void based Exotic. I don’t yet have the Raid chest but have the Raid gauntlets and Helm. I can’t see me using the Raid Helm much though with Obsidian Mind in my options.

    • Koiyle-Puddi Puddi-Noodles

      Was using Obsidian Mind the other day, gets Void super back quite quickly. Have an upgraded Juju just need the exp

  • Christian

    This weapon is amazing on parts on the raid and casual strikes. For general day to day stuff this weapon is simply the best. But when you are doing endgame stuff its a lot harder to keep up with it.

  • Micah Yang

    If I get the exotic bounty I don’t know if I’ll be able to choose between bad juju and thorn.

    • Christian

      Thorn should only really be attempted if you are lv 30. It was harder and the boss at the end has been nerfed. Bad JuJu is way, way easier and you should do that first. But keep in mind it’s possible you wont get the choice as one might be mission. Keep in mind Thorn is quite a tricky and grindy bounty, while JuJu is just grindy.

      • Micah Yang

        I see. I hope they make destiny 2 less of a grind :/

        • Christian

          The thing about Destiny is that it is all about the grind. Constantly working towards new things. I want it to remain Grindy (That is basically the entire point), but I’d like less repetitive challenges and activities. If it wasn’t really grindy players would run out of things to do very quickly. As it stands at the moment, everything feels like the same over, all Destiny 2 needs is more diverse challenges that change a bit more radically.

          It’s a common misconception. Players wont like Destiny when it isn’t grindy. What we really want is to not have to kill “Bracus Tu’Aarn” three times a week, only have 5 strikes, and boring patrol based activities. More bounties too. It’s the one thing I really think bungie has lacked on. There are very few bounties, we need a lot more so we aren’t doing the same ones 5 times a week. Making patrol more interesting is a biggie for me. It’s something with a lot of potential that is simply not being pushed.

          • Micah Yang

            I really hope the next destiny is actually “open world”.

          • Christian

            Hopefully more freedom to it yes. I’m not as fond of all the levels being broken up so much.

    • sbrozzi

      I have both Bad JuJu & Thorn & completed both bounties and I can tell you that the Thorn bounty was/is a monster! That being said, Thorn is my primary weapon that I use for nearly everything. I have the updated version & fully upgraded it & man it is a beast. Without a doubt go for Thorn but be prepared for taking a couple weeks to complete.

      • Maxi Potenzoni

        Couple of weeks? it took me like 3 hours, 1 and a half the multiplayer part and the xyor part took me like 1 more hour

        • sbrozzi

          My bad, I confused the two bounties. I forgot there was no Xur component to Thorn. It was Bad JuJu that took me much longer to complete because of all the Strikes & you may have to wait to visit Xur.

        • Shadowreeper1337

          Same thorn bounty was pretty easy to be honest

    • BAMozzy69 .

      Bad Juju is the easier bounty to complete in my opinion but I much prefer Thorn as a weapon. As soon as you get Thorn it is usable and feels less of a grind upgrading it. Once Devourer is unlocked, Thorn became one of, if not my favourite Hand Cannon.
      Bad Juju though doesn’t feel great when you first get it – especially when compared to other pulse and the majority of other primaries. At range (anything from mid range+), headshots are tricky. You aim for the head and the recoil means that the firs may hit but the 2nd and 3rd bullets fly over the enemies head. The auto function can often mean that you fire more than one burst when you only wanted one more shot to kill so you do find you run out of ammo very quickly and reloading lots so it feels very much disappointing and a grind to get it upgraded. Once you get ‘SoC’ though this weapon does come into its own. By which time you have generally got to grips with its effective range and recoil. Its very effective when dealing with the rushing thralls and often can kill many without needing to reload or lose ammo. Its good in the first section of the new raid!

    • Shadowreeper1337

      Bad Juju if you’re into pulse rifles and like having your super up always plus it’s probably the best pulse rifle aside from Red Death or Thorn for a beastly handcannon that might just be the supreme ruler of all handcannons with its dot and penetration seriously the dot is actually WORTH IT and it makes this gun a beast personally I can’t choose between the two I use Bad Juju on my warlock with Obsidian Mind and the Thorn on my gunslinger hunter but sometimes I use the Thorn on my warlock because it’s fun to use and badass but then again so is the Bad Juju

  • Rory Horne

    On my hunter this with the knucklehead is a beast on either subclass in PvE, I swear I just blink when smashing through ads and my super is ready again, blast out some orbs, then back to the constant slaughter! Love it!!!!

  • BAMozzy69 .

    Having recently completed the ‘Tolands Legacy’ bounty again, It reminded me how bad this weapon is until you can unlock the ‘string of curses’ perk. Whilst its not as bad as the first time I unlocked Bad Juju due to the recent buff its still a struggle to find a reason to equip it when compared to other Pulse Rifles as well as compared to other primaries.
    Even Fully upgraded I don’t think this weapon is great but the ‘String of Curses’ does make the weapon unique and have some usability although I tend to use this more for something different when running around in patrols. I actually prefer Red Death in terms of ‘feel’ and usability but I still think some of the other Legendary Pulse rifles are better than both. If this didn’t have that unique perk, then Bad Juju would be average at best.
    Aesthetically it looks great and the ‘SoC’ perk makes this weapon have some benefits but its lack of Impact and damage output as well its recoil (which is much better post-buff) mean it really lacks the killing potential of other pulse rifles and the majority of other primaries.

  • Cumulo Procella

    Fell in love with this gun while I was trying to solo the first part of the raid on my blade dancer. The burst of fully automatic rounds just keep coming and between inverse shadow and 100% intellect I have my super up every minute and a half!

  • The conclusion is pretty much spot on. The “very fun” is very true. It’s a fun gun. It’s not all powerful, but it helps you be more powerful. It looks damn cool! And yeah, it’s fun not having to reload (though I find I still have a tendency to reload out of habit). With the Obsidian Helm, it does become crazy fun, and suddenly you have the problem of not having enough to kill.

    Bad Juju is awesome and fun, and a good example of a well done exotic now.

  • Jacob Pimentel

    So the new Bounty gets you the updated version? I already have it and picked up the bounty again by mistake like two days ago. Was gonna do it to just dismantle it and get a green shard. I’m curios as to whether re doing it will get me the updated version or not.

    • It’ll be updated

  • I jus got it two days ago and it killed athtoen and crota nicely for me. and i got plenty of exotic shards for the upgrade but love that it starts @ 302 attack power!

  • thesadmagistrate

    Pretty pimp weapon. Don’t think there is any primary weapon better for “hordes” of enemies, and you can just truck through lower level bounties/missions/dailies with ease. The increased clip size was huge in allowing it to be serviceable against bigger foes; before it was just so small that it felt like you were always reloading.

    The impact is low, for sure, but if you couple this with big hitting secondary weapons, you won’t really worry about it. I usually use this for all “grunt”-like mobs and swap to a sniper for the Majors and Ultras.

    I wouldn’t recommend it for PvP just like I wouldn’t recommend anything that has lower impact. The main perk of instant reload is pretty lost on it as well, except in those really rare situations where you can back-to-back enemies from distance in relatively safety, i.e. almost never.

    None of this mentions the increased super generation, which is awesome in any situation. It’s very noticeable; with it’s “horde” killing potential, your super is almost always up.

    I liked it before the buffs due to the potential but the clip size/impact always left it lacking. Now that that’s been buffed (plus the super increase), this weapon is straight beast mode and worth of inclusion in any Guardian’s rotation.

    Best for: Patrol; Bounties; Dailies; Strikes
    Worst for: PvP; raid bosses (is pretty great for first part of CE, though, and most other parts of raids but you’ll likely want higher impact in general).

    • Gitaxis

      I use this to take out the “grunts” as you called them, and then you can either use your regenerated super, or your secondary and heavy to take out the big guys.

  • Delsin Rowe

    Bad JuJu, Don’t Touch Me, and GraveBreaker 2.1 for extremely frequent Super uses.

  • Christian Jimenez

    Can’t wait for the pulse rifle buff this month. I’ll definitely be using bad juju more often.

  • Andronicus

    Completing this bounty at the moment. Worth it? Or going to be another exotic I add to the vault and leave it there?

  • FriedCats

    You know the Triangular symbol that represents the SoC Perk? well it’s the same triangle you see when ads on Thorn.